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The historical basis for the King Arthur legend has long been debated by scholars.
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This lack of convincing early evidence is the reason many recent historians exclude Arthur from their accounts of post-Roman Britain.
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Some scholars argue that Arthur was originally a fictional hero of folklore — or even a half-forgotten Celtic deity — who became credited with real deeds in the distant past.
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In the absence of new compelling information about post-Roman England, a definitive answer to the question of Arthur's historical existence is unlikely.

From these, we can say that the main point - and therefore the position of the author - is to evaluate a long lasting debate. Still unsolved


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The historical basis for the King Arthur legend has long been debated by scholars.
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This lack of convincing early evidence is the reason many recent historians exclude Arthur from their accounts of post-Roman Britain.
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Some scholars argue that Arthur was originally a fictional hero of folklore — or even a half-forgotten Celtic deity — who became credited with real deeds in the distant past.
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In the absence of new compelling information about post-Roman England, a definitive answer to the question of Arthur's historical existence is unlikely.

From these, we can say that the main point - and therefore the position of the author - is to evaluate a long lasting debate. Still unsolved


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If the debate is still unresolved, how does the author take a position of whether Arthur existed or not?
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Take position = what he thinks about.

Positive, negative or further investigations.

Not necessarily good or bad, yes or no. Could be also : we need to know more
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Alright! I thought taking a position means to choose b/w the two extremes. Thanks!
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The historical basis for the King Arthur legend has long been debated by scholars. One school of thought, citing entries in the History of the Britons and Welsh Annals, sees Arthur as a genuine historical figure, a Romano-British leader who fought against the invading Anglo-Saxons sometime in the late 5th to early 6th century. The other text that seems to support the case for Arthur's historical existence is the 10th-century Annales Cambriae. The latest research shows that the Annales Cambriae was based on a chronicle begun in the late 8th century in Wales. Additionally, the complex textual history of the Annales Cambriae precludes any certainty that the Arthurian annals were added to it even that early. They were more likely added at some point in the 10th century and may never have existed in any earlier set of annals.

This lack of convincing early evidence is the reason many recent historians exclude Arthur from their accounts of post-Roman Britain. In the view of historian Thomas Charles-Edwards there may well have been a historical Arthur, but a historian can as yet say nothing of value about him. These modern admissions of ignorance are a relatively recent trend; earlier generations of historians were less skeptical. Historian John Morris made the putative reign of Arthur the organizing principle of his history of post-Roman Britain and Ireland. Even so, he found little to say about a historical Arthur. Partly in reaction to such theories, another school of thought emerged which argued that Arthur had no historical existence at all. Morris's Age of Arthur prompted archaeologist Nowell Myres to observe that no figure on the borderline of history and mythology has wasted more of the historian's time. Arthur is not mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle or named in any surviving manuscript written between 400 and 820. He is absent from Bede's early-8th-century Ecclesiastical History of the English People, another major early source for post-Roman history.

Some scholars argue that Arthur was originally a fictional hero of folklore — or even a half-forgotten Celtic deity — who became credited with real deeds in the distant past. They cite parallels with figures such as the Kentish totemic horse-gods Hengest and Horsa, who later became historicized. Bede ascribed to these legendary figures a historical role in the 5th-century Anglo-Saxon conquest of eastern Britain.

Historical documents for the post-Roman period are scarce. Of the many post-Roman archeological sites and places, only a handful have been identified as "Arthurian", and these date from the 12th century or later. Archaeology can confidently reveal names only through inscriptions found in reliably dated sites. In the absence of new compelling information about post-Roman England, a definitive answer to the question of Arthur's historical existence is unlikely.



1. Which of the following best parallels the relationship between Charles-Edwards's and John Morris's interpretations regarding the existence of King Arthur?

A) An ancient historical document is transcribed by three scholars, each of whom have similar translations but divergent interpretations.
B) According to one archaeologist recent evidence unearthed at a dig suggests that North America may have been populated earlier than thought, while another archaeologist says that the evidence is too insubstantial to say for certain whether this is the case.
C) Radio static picked up from distant space was thought to not follow a typical pattern, and therefore was thought by some scientists as indicative of other life forms, an interpretation that another group of scientists dismissed outright.
D) A team of marine biologists recently found a prehistoric fish thought extinct for thousands of years.
E) A work thought to be that of a Flemish master, upon being exposed as a forgery, was nonetheless bought by a museum claiming that the work was indeed the original.


2. According to the passage, Bede’s Ecclesiastical History of the English People contains information that

A) provides context that would argue against a historical Arthur
B) undermines the notion of a historical Arthur by furnishing evidence that refutes that King Arthur ever existed
C) suggests that Bede’s work did not fully account for events between 400 and 820
D) indirectly supports the existence of a historical Arthur
E) diverges from most narratives popular during the 12th century


3. The primary purpose of the passage is to

A) evaluate a historical debate and then take a position
B) discuss two positions on an issue, while disagreeing with both
C) discount evidence arguing against the existence of a historical person
D) suggest that the verification of many historical figures is beyond our ability
E) draw a link between mythical and historical figures


4. Nowell Myres would most likely view the idea of an Arthurian reign as key to the understanding of the history of sub-Roman Briton as

A) invalid, because it presupposes the existence of a person who most likely never existed
B) suspect, since it overlooks other factors important to an understanding of sub-Roman Briton
C) plausible, to some degree, as there was some major historical figure who helped shaped the history of early Briton
D) unsubstantiated by events described in the Annales Cambriae
E) vital in determining the authenticity of the historical Arthur


The story of King Arthur is famous, but historians still debate if he was real. Some believe he was a leader in Britain who fought the Anglo-Saxons, based on old texts like History of the Britons and Annales Cambriae. However, these sources are not strong enough to prove he existed. Many historians think Arthur was more of a legend or myth. There’s little early evidence, like from the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle or Bede’s writings, to show he was real. Some experts even think Arthur might have started as a hero story or an old god. Until new evidence is found, we may never know for sure.
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Fascinating. However, this is irrelevant with the solution of the passage above
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