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14 minutes is really out of scale.

Long reading , included to answer the questions, should not take ON average more than 3 minutes. 5 minutes at most.

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I am more than aware of it being out of scope, just putting it out there for others to be able to compare.
It has been going down gradually, so it is still a process in happening :).

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For the 21st question, why is E eliminated? It does refer in the passage that traditional historians use concrete facts that are put forth and validated by other historians. Is this because "quantifiable" is not mentioned in the passage? Also what does it mean for data to be quantifiable?
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QUESTION 21) why not E? why C?

22) why not C? why E?
I am really clueless here..
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This were really out of scale. Dead tough


21. It can be inferred from the passage that one way in which traditional history can be distinguished from psychohistory is that traditional history usually

(A) views past events as complex and having their own individuality

Correct

(B) relies on a single interpretation of human behavior to explain historical events

No mention in the passage of this. Maybe was the easier

(C) interprets historical events in such a way that their specific nature is transcended

No. this pertained to pyschohistory

psychoanalysis of the individuals who made history, and deduces its theories not from this or that instance in their lives, but from a view of human nature that transcends history.

(D) turns to psychological explanations in historical contexts to account for events

Nothing about this. Notice how this is a convoluted phrase that actually says almost nothing

(E) relies strictly on data that are concrete and quantifiable

Where history once was primarily narrative, it is now entirely analytic. That does not mean they are quantifiable, just analytic


22. It can be inferred from the passage that the methods used by psychohistorians probably prevent them from

(A) presenting their material in chronological order

No mention about

(B) producing a one-sided picture of an individual’s personality and motivations

No, pyschohistory gives us a complex scenario that transcends

(C) uncovering alternative explanations that might cause them to question their own conclusions

This is correct from the bottom of the passage

Instead of respecting the particularity of the past, it assimilates all events, past and present, into a single deterministic schema that is presumed to be true at all times and in all circumstances. So, they are prevented to see alternate scenarios

(D) offering a consistent interpretation of the impact of personality on historical events

Not totally true. The personality is used to come to assess facts

(E) recognizing connections between a government’s political actions and the aspirations of government leaders

Totally out of scope


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Question 27th is super confusing. C or D
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Question 27th is super confusing. C or D


@carcass help with Q27 please. Attempted this question like after 2 months. Still not clear
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Where is the problem with this question, if should you explain to me ??

Essentially, where is the turning point before which you get lost and after which you nail the question ??
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14 minutes is really out of scale.

Long reading , included to answer the questions, should not take ON average more than 3 minutes. 5 minutes at most.

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5 minutes? The G.R.E. expects you to solve 1.5 minutes per question so shouldn't at most time be around 10 minutes?
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Question 27th is super confusing. C or D

27. In presenting her analysis, the author does all of the following EXCEPT:

(A) Make general statement without reference to specific examples.
(B) Describe some of the criteria employed by traditional historians.
(C) Question the adequacy of the psychohistorians’ interpretation of events.
(D) Point out inconsistencies in the psychohistorians’ application of their methods.
(E) Contrast the underlying assumptions of psychohistorians with those of traditional historians.

I got this one correct, but did waver between C & D. In order for D to be the right answer, there must be a reason C is wrong and I found this portion may help us eliminate C.

Psychohistory "imposes upon the past the same determinism that it imposes upon the present, thus robbing people and events of their individuality and of their complexity."

Basically the author is saying that psychohistory omitting individuality and complexity of people and events, while believing that these elements should have been part of the history. Therefore, when these elements being robbed from the history, the history is not complete. Because of these missing pieces, psychohistorians' interpretation of events is inadequate
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There is a problem with the right answer to Question 24, I guess. It has been given E as the right choice but I guess it will be C.
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There is a problem with the right answer to Question 24, I guess. It has been given E as the right choice but I guess it will be C.


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I have to admit, I'm a bit confused concerning problem 24. Based on the last paragraph, it seems to me that C would be the obvious correct answer:
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It imposes upon the past the same determinism that it imposes upon the present, thus robbing people and events of their individuality and of their complexity. Instead of respecting the particularity of the past, it assimilates all events, past and present, into a single deterministic schema that is presumed to be true at all times and in all circumstances.


Carcass, I can see why E has a good deal of validity, but the passage never specifically mentions groups of people vs. individuals, whereas it does essentially directly paraphrase answer choice C:
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Past and current events are all placed within the same deterministic schema.
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it assimilates all events, past and present, into a single deterministic schema


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Psychohistory derives its “facts” not from history, the detailed records of events and their consequences, but from psychoanalysis of the individuals who made history, and deduces its theories not from this or that instance in their lives, but from a view of human nature that transcends history.

(E) Analysis is focused on group behavior rather than on particular events in an individual’s life.


(C) Past and current events are all placed within the same deterministic schema.

it assimilates all events, past and present, into a single deterministic schema that is presumed to be true at all times and in all circumstances.

assimilates \(\neq \) all placed, past and current events

Let me know if now is clear
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Psychohistory derives its “facts” not from history, the detailed records of events and their consequences, but from psychoanalysis of the individuals who made history, and deduces its theories not from this or that instance in their lives, but from a view of human nature that transcends history.

(E) Analysis is focused on group behavior rather than on particular events in an individual’s life.


(C) Past and current events are all placed within the same deterministic schema.

it assimilates all events, past and present, into a single deterministic schema that is presumed to be true at all times and in all circumstances.

assimilates \(\neq \) all placed, past and current events

Let me know if now is clear


Carcass, thank you! This is very clear. I sometimes forget how vocab-heavy GRE verbal questions really are. Subtle nuances make all the difference.

Thank you!
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For 24 , I went with B cause of the following line in the rc :
" It denies the basic criterion of historical evidence: that evidence be publicly accessible to, and therefore assessable by, all historians."

which matches with
"Archives used by psychohistorians to gather material are not accessible to other scholars."

Can you please tell why it is wrong?
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