Last visit was: 21 Nov 2024, 16:21 It is currently 21 Nov 2024, 16:21

Close

GRE Prep Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GRE score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Close

Request Expert Reply

Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [13]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Most Helpful Expert Reply
avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 04 Feb 2019
Posts: 204
Own Kudos [?]: 418 [12]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
General Discussion
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 02 Aug 2019
Posts: 3
Own Kudos [?]: 3 [1]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 18 Jun 2019
Posts: 122
Own Kudos [?]: 42 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
1
This was super hard for me too!
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [4]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
4
Expert Reply
18. The author suggests that the variety of incidents in the Odyssey is likely to deter the reader from.

(A) concentrating on the poem's mythological features

Odyssey has always been more popular than the Iliad, perhaps because it includes more features of mythology that are accessible to readers.

The features are more accessible. The passage does not show that the spectator must concentrate more

(B) concentrating on the psychological states of the poem's central character

Odyssey is "life-as-spectacle. Iliad, on the contrary, is "life-experience" which means that the spectator must concentrate LESS, and identify LESS with the state of mind of the protagonist. I.E. Odyssey is effortless as a book for the reader

(C) accepting the explanations that have been offered for the poem's popularity

I do not know what that means but I do not see in the passage


(D) accepting the poem's scheme of divine justice

Odyssey, with its simpler scheme of divine justice.

The passage asserts exactly the contrary of what D as questions suggests us

(E) accepting Maynard Mack's theory that the poem's subject is "life-as-spectacle"

Not really the accepting
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 30 Jan 2020
Posts: 1
Own Kudos [?]: 0 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
it was hard
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 03 Dec 2019
Posts: 348
Own Kudos [?]: 955 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
deli wrote:
it was hard


One cannot expect anything less than that from the official source! :)
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [0]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Expert Reply
There is nothing hard.

You have to find only the way to read carefully and thinking about what you read.

It is that simple, in the end.

Regards
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 03 Dec 2019
Posts: 348
Own Kudos [?]: 955 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Carcass wrote:
There is nothing hard.

You have to find only the way to read carefully and thinking about what you read.

It is that simple, in the end.

Regards



May be not hard but difficult ?
avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 19 May 2020
Posts: 74
Own Kudos [?]: 192 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
GRE 1: Q160 V163
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
1
17. The author uses Mack's "categories" most probably in order to
(C) suggest one way in which the Iliad and the Odyssey can be distinguished
Correct
(E) demonstrate that the Iliad and the Odyssey can best be distinguished by comparing their respective heroes
Incorrect trap answer- Passage does not say this is the best way


18. The author suggests that the variety of incidents in the Odyssey is likely to deter the reader from.
POE
(B) concentrating on the psychological states of the poem's central character
Correct- diverted by its various incidents, observe its hero Odysseus primarily from without;

19. The passage is primarily concerned with
(E) developing a contrast
Correct- this is clearly the theme

20. It can be inferred from the passage that a reader of the Iliad is likely to have trouble identifying with the poem's hero for which of the following reasons?
(D) The hero's emotions often do not seem appealing to the reader.
correct: readers are asked to identify with the mind of Achilles,
whose motivations render him a not particularly likable
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 21 Jul 2020
Posts: 10
Own Kudos [?]: 4 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Quote:
Its subject (to use Maynard Mack's categories) is "life-as-spectacle," for readers, diverted by its various incidents, observe its hero Odysseus primarily from without; the tragic Iliad, however, presents "life-experience": readers are asked to identify with the mind of Achilles, whose motivations render him a not particularly likable hero.


The sentence structure is messed up. Who writes like this???

Anyway, can someone tell me what "from without" means?
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [0]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Expert Reply
EKKIM wrote:
Quote:
Its subject (to use Maynard Mack's categories) is "life-as-spectacle," for readers, diverted by its various incidents, observe its hero Odysseus primarily from without; the tragic Iliad, however, presents "life-experience": readers are asked to identify with the mind of Achilles, whose motivations render him a not particularly likable hero.


The sentence structure is messed up. Who writes like this???

Anyway, can someone tell me what "from without" means?



If you did notice the source of the question you should know that OG Big Book means ETS, who creates the GRE test.

So I do not think the question is bogus whatsoever
Intern
Intern
Joined: 09 Nov 2020
Posts: 30
Own Kudos [?]: 15 [0]
Given Kudos: 16
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
from without - archaic English usage. This means "outside".
Manager
Manager
Joined: 05 Jun 2022
Posts: 73
Own Kudos [?]: 3 [0]
Given Kudos: 2
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Carcass, for Q2, can you please clarify whether perceive hero from without means not able to concentrate on the psychological states of the poem's central character?
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [0]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Expert Reply
tkorzhan18 wrote:
Carcass, for Q2, can you please clarify whether perceive hero from without means not able to concentrate on the psychological states of the poem's central character?



I addressed above.

https://gre.myprepclub.com/forum/of-homer- ... tml#p37574

please read the discussions before, and see if the questions are not already explained

Thank you
Intern
Intern
Joined: 21 Apr 2022
Posts: 12
Own Kudos [?]: 4 [0]
Given Kudos: 46
Send PM
Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Can someone explain the meaning of the line -" readers are asked to identify with the mind of Achilles, whose motivations render him a not particularly likable hero". What does the author mean by the mind of Achilles?
Verbal Expert
Joined: 18 Apr 2015
Posts: 30003
Own Kudos [?]: 36341 [1]
Given Kudos: 25927
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
1
Expert Reply
Vedant1807 wrote:
Can someone explain the meaning of the line -" readers are asked to identify with the mind of Achilles, whose motivations render him a not particularly likable hero". What does the author mean by the mind of Achilles?


The readers of the Iliad should put themselves in the place of Achille, I.E. in Achille's shoes to understand his motivation and why, due to these motivations, he is likable

Regards
Intern
Intern
Joined: 11 Jul 2022
Posts: 6
Own Kudos [?]: 1 [0]
Given Kudos: 9
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
For Q20: I know this strategy (for inference questions) that we have to make a contrast with the information already "GIVEN" in the passage. I agree that D could be inferred as well for the reason mentioned in the explanations, BUT option E could be an inference as well for the contrast with Odysseus - for readers, diverted by its various incidents, observe its hero Odysseus primarily from without. So the opposite of that would be there are fewer incidents in Iliad to capture the reader.

Where am I lacking with my logic or understanding of the nuance attached to the question?
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 07 Jan 2021
Posts: 1722
Own Kudos [?]: 53 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Hello from the GRE Prep Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GRE Prep Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Prep Club for GRE Bot
Re: Of Homer's two epic poems, the Odyssey has always been more [#permalink]
Moderators:
GRE Forum Moderator
37 posts
GRE Instructor
234 posts
GRE Instructor
1065 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne